hello Axel,

i agree that, with the new euro rack and frac rac
formats, you can really do everything and much more
than what any older (modular or not) machine would
allow you to do.
i too have two ems vcs3's and like them much, but, i
get TOTAL flexibility and huge sound pallete from my
new modulars, not from the VCS3's (which are great for
certain kind of sounds).
if you're a collector, you "need" the VCS3 for
showing-off mostly, i guess...
but, if you really want to use your analogue modulars
to make creative music, nothing can beat the new
modulars (euro and frac formats being the most
flexible and giving you the most capabilities), IMHO.

best regards,
Bakis.


--- Axel Jungkunst < phaedra@... > wrote:

> Hi James,
> I'm also glad about my modular and it still grows.
> I remember my AKS/VCS3-Synths as noise machines,
> hard to tune
> and not really able to produce very good playable
> sounds.
> With my choice to sell them und to build up a more
> flexible modular system
> I am very happy. Leading is Doepfer, followed by
> ASys (just bought the RS215
> and waiting for a RS95e and a RS430) and in addition
> Plan B, Cwejman
> and Cyndustries.
> I don't really need an EMS, the wanted soundscapes
> are patchable and
> they are sounding as good as the original does,
> leaving the last 2 percents
> of puristic sounds behind :-)
> Lets do it with our modules!
> Axel
>
> James Husted schrieb:
> >
> > Axel-
> > I have two Doepfer portable cabinets and one is
> devoted to being a
> > AKS clone. It is a mix of AS and Doepfer. I have
> gotten really close
> > to the old AKS sound - in fact it has been so long
> that the memories
> > I have of my AKS's sound may be better in my head
> than the really
> > were! Anyway I am happy with my setup - it is not
> as fast as the
> > matrix on the EMS, and not as clean looking, but
> there are so many
> > more modules to choose from that I won't be tired
> of it very soon. I
> > selling my Nord G3 to buy more modules soon. I
> will be looking into
> > Plan-B soon and a few more AS joysticks will be
> cool to. The portable
> > Doepfer cases are VERY sweet and seem more road
> worthy than the old AKS.
> > -James
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Axel Jungkunst wrote:
> >
> > > Hi James,
> > > years ago I used two AKS and one VCS3 with DK1
> Keyboards, Octave
> > > Filter
> > > Bank,
> > > Octave Divider, Pitch To Voltage Converter and
> so on....and now I
> > > apologize to
> > > have nothing from that all. ;-)
> > > A simple Synthi A ist too expensive meanwhile.
> > > But the "EMS" soundscenes I want to build are
> possible with
> > > some of my ASys, Doepfer and Plan B modules.
> > > Not quite 100 %, but for my impression it is
> near enough to me.
> > > all the best
> > > Axel
> > >
> > > James Husted schrieb:
> > >>
> > >> I used to own two Synthi AKS and a VCS3 - the
> biggest mistake in my
> > >> synth buying/selling history was selling them.
> I have since tried to
> > >> get the same feeling and function from similar
> modulars from the
> > >> different eurorack manufacturers (+40 modules
> and growing). The main
> > >> thing I have discovered that made the
> difference to my patches
> > >> (mainly raygun-from-mars type sounds) is the
> large difference in
> > >> control voltage sensitivity between the EMS and
> current modules. The
> > >> EMS's VCO .32V/Oct response makes a ton of
> difference when a LFO or
> > >> other CV is modulating. The joystick or LFO can
> easily sweep the VCO
> > >> from sub-to-super audio on a AKS for instance.
> For me the sound of
> > >> the VCO and VCF can probably be matched closely
> (at least as closely
> > >> as AKSs match each other), but as Michael says
> it is a lot harder to
> > >> match the way the modules behave together. I'm
> sure with some
> > >> modification current offerings would get
> closer, but straight from
> > >> the factory they don't match for me. On the
> other hand current
> > >> modules stay in tune and work well with each
> other when all use the
> > >> same 1 V/Oct so that is a huge benefit.
> > >>
> > >> -James
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:03 AM, michaeltritter
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> i have a synthi A and the RS500 and 510. i
> know that the 500 filter
> > >>> is supposed to be an
> > >>> exact rebuild of the synthi filters -- i don't
> think it quite
> > >>> matches the behavior, but it's
> > >>> still pretty good -- but since much of the
> charm of the synthi for
> > >>> me is its essential
> > >>> nastiness, i found that half of getting the
> synthi vibe out of the
> > >>> 500 filter module lies less
> > >>> in what oscillator i ran into it than in
> overdriving the input (and
> > >>> output) to distort. the
> > >>> trapezoid module and a joystick (AS or
> doepfer) go a long way
> > >>> toward a nice simulation
> > >>> (yes also the model 14).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Axel
> Jungkunst <phaedra@...>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>> with the RS95e Oscs you will be as near as
> possible to the EMS
> > >>>> sound source,
> > >>>> but without the RS500e you will have no
> chance to build the basics
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> the typical sound.
> > >>>> Further I recommend the RS510e Trapezoid
> Generator and a Plan B
> > >>>> Model 14
> > >>>> Dual
> > >>>> Control Processor.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> best regards
> > >>>> Axel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> johnppp2 schrieb:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi there
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm new here so hello all. I've had a search
> and read up on the
> > >>>>> EMS
> > >>>>> filters and the like but i'm trying to put
> together my first
> > >>>>> system,
> > >>>>> and i'd like to get the closest to the EMS
> VCO's that i can. Its
> > >>>>> more
> > >>>>> the sound than any of the specific features
> so any suggestions are
> > >>>>> very welcome. What's out there at the
> moment
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> thanks
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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