Hi Dave, Bakis, Folks:

Dieter has been the most productive and affordable modular designer ever. If people want a bit crusher now they buy a Malgorithm. I look forward to Doepfer's - I owned and then sold a Malgorithm. To my good fortune the NAMM demo sold me on the Doepfer unit anyway. The Harvestman will go deeper into his magic to produce something even further out.

Bill

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From: davevosh@...
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:13 PM
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but, anyway, both the harvestman and the doepfer line
of digital modules will be very interesting, for sure,
so it great for us the users! :-)

bakis,
i apologise to all concerned if i wasn`t clear on the bit crusher - i know its an outgrowth of something doepfer had been working on (ad / da module) and showing for comments for some time.
my general idea was that none of these companies are large and i`m sure they all work on very thin margins so a reduction of duplication of effort helps everyone as it leaves them free to explore other weird module r and d.
also, there is a big difference between "announced" and "deliverable", something to be considered when pondering and planning synth expansion, how long are you willing to wait for module "xyz" from manufacturer "a" as opposed to acquiring now from manufacturer "b" -
these are just things to think about - i like and use both doepfer and harvestman (and, like most of the list i suspect, a host of others,too, both euro and not) and feel they are providing a real service to our modular community.
best,
dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... >
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: 1 new polls / module idea`s -

Hello Dave,

the bit crusher is a development based on the AD/DA
module and, so, doepfer was working on it before the
Malgorithm came...
also, more digital modules from doepfer will come that
are results of development from the AD/DA module...
but these were planned by doepfer before the new
harvestman line was announced (i guess...)
(please, correct me if i'm wrong Dieter)

but, anyway, both the harvestman and the doepfer line
of digital modules will be very interesting, for sure,
so it great for us the users! :-)

best regards,
Bakis.

--- davevosh@... wrote:

>
>
> hello to all,
> i was reading the comments so far and went and voted
> in the polls but wanted to add some thoughts of my
> own :
> 1) modules with digital internals are fine with me
> as long as we keep the user interface analog - no
> menu`s, lcd`s, etc..
> 2) without knowing what chip doepfer is using for
> the initial bit cruncher module, i wonder if its
> possible to design a "core" that would allow
> efficient execution of other digitally inspired
> functions such as the proposed granular, sampling
> and efx modules - - then add the required u / i
> (pots, etc.) as each module develops. this might
> reduce duplication of effort internally while
> allowing each module to dictate its own u / i needs
> more cleanly plus it eliminates the complexity of a
> generalized digital internals multi-function module
> as was originally put forward as an idea by doepfer.
> 3) i`m a radio freak, i use 3 small, cheap am/fm/sw
> units in my setup and love them, but we`ve visited
> this issue before here and it was felt that there
> were too many limitations in doing one right as a
> module. sadly, i think i agree here - i`d love one
> but don`t see it as a realistic doepfer product.
> additionally, stuff like vlf radio, which can
> produce some amazing sounds, just won`t work well in
> the area`s most of us live in due to overwhelming
> local radio clutter and interference. worse, over
> the years, sw has become much less common, falling
> victim to the internet and streaming "radio" as one
> example - there`s good, weird stuff out there on the
> airwaves but its harder to exploit cheaply and
> easily (in my case, i strung a long wire along my
> roof and clip it to the antenna`s of my little
> recievers which helps. in the u.s., am radio is a
> really useful source for transmission skip effects,
> foreign language stations, etc.) than it was 30
> years ago when i started playing with e.m. idea`s.
> 4) sometimes i wonder if its "necessary" (efficient
> - ) for doepfer as a company to largely duplicate
> parallel module developments by other companies -
> i`ll use the proposed delay module as an example
> here - harvestman is about to release a similar
> module (tyme safari) - granted, every company would
> add its own little twists but is the overall
> duplicated effort useful - (i skipped the upcoming
> bit crusher as an example compared to harvestmans
> malgorithm because it looks like the doepfer version
> will have other operating modes beyond bit reduction
> and s/r manipulation.).
> 5) the sensor input modules could be handy as i like
> odd controllers and could possibly be developed
> using the a-119 env. follower and a-179 light
> controller circuitry as a starting point, saving
> effort -
> best,
> dave
>
>
>
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