Hi,

I agree that knobs rule over plugins (even though I control mine with knobs
:-), but I have a limited budget and space and would like to spend it on
"analog" stuff than bitcrushers. A-112 is definitely interesting, but I'd
like to see it in action first - which is impossible here in Turkey. I
should go to Berlin sometime.

Best,

Korhan

On 3/3/08, partlydrone < partlydrone@... > wrote:
>
> "The digital modules (A112 and the bitcrushers) are interesting, but
> they are easily done within the computer"
>
> although i have some sympathy with this view, the same could be said
> of filters and all that, realistically.
>
> although there are endless debates to be had about sound quality, to
> my mind the key difference between noddling on screen with plugins,
> and noodling in the basement with boxes knobs and wires, is the
> different way of working, the different varieties of serendipitous
> discoveries, the different workflows which can be better or worse for
> spontaneous playing around, and so on.
>
> so i would still say that digital modules are a good idea. remember
> too that we are talking about high church hipster 8bit digital crud
> modules, in the harvestman and a112 stuff. not waves plugins.
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Korhan Erel" <listekutusu@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you very much partlydrone, stu and florian! The instrument I
> have in
> > mind is indeed a bass clarinet, which is played wonderfully by a
> friend of
> > mine. But I would like to use this setup with other instruments, such as
> > electric guitar, tenor saxophone or even vocals. I play in a free
> > improvisation group and would like to use the modules there (I
> normally use
> > Audiomulch to create sounds and process instruments)
> >
> > I guess the BBD is definitely on the shopping list now. So is the
> A-137 -
> > I'll have to ask Schneidersbuero if they would go for a swap.
> >
> > The digital modules (A112 and the bitcrushers) are interesting, but
> they are
> > easily done within the computer (including CV control with Pluggo by
> Cycling
> > 74). I would like to keep this process as analog as possible.
> >
> > The phaser was only interesting for the CV input, but it's not on
> the list
> > anymore.
> >
> > I wanted the noise/random module for the random part, but I am open
> to other
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Florian, can you please elaborate on the use of A160,161 or the
> A151. I am
> > totally unfamiliar with these modules and cannot imagine how I could use
> > them in my setup. An example that contains some of the modules mentioned
> > here would be very useful.
> >
> > What would happen if an instrument, a clarinet or tenor sax, is fed
> directly
> > into a PLL You can assume that the instrumentalists are virtuosos
> and can
> > play whatever is required. I am looking for radical changes - I
> would prefer
> > terrible pitch tracking to very good pitch tracking.
> >
> > I can already use the Quad LFO as an oscillator, but would like to
> modulate
> > the frequency and hence want the A-110. Envelope out from A-119
> would be a
> > nice modulation source for the A-110, I guess.
> >
> > The S&H is the A-148.Slew limiters are 170 and 171. 170 has two, 171
> has CV
> > control. Which one should I get I'm usually a numbers guy and
> assume 2 is
> > better than 1.
> >
> > I do have one Multiplier.
> >
> > Thanks once more! I have already a much better idea. I'll try to put all
> > your suggestions together and see what comes out (in functionality
> and in
> > Euros)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Korhan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/2/08, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Korhan
> > >
> > > > I use these modules to process instruments as well as for sound
> design
> > > > (using the LFOs as oscillators). I have been planning to expand this
> > > > system to process acoustic instruments during live performance,
> and I
> > > > consider the following modules:
> > > >
> > > > A-106 Xtreme Filter
> > > > A-110 VCO
> > > > A-114 Ring Mod
> > > > A-118 Noise/Random
> > > > A-125 Phaser
> > > > A-127 VC Triple Res. Filter
> > > > A-175 Dual Inverter
> > > > A-188-1 BBD (1024)
> > > > A-196 PLL
> > >
> > > > What can it
> > > > do to a bass clarinet plugged into it
> > > OK, I assume your instrument is woodwind (bass clarinet, but maybe
> > > others like saxophon).
> > >
> > > So my definite recommendation is:
> > > A-188 any BBD (which one is matter of taste) not for flanger, but for
> > > standing resonances, karplusstrong stuff...
> > >
> > > A-137 Waveshaper. This is a MUST for a monophonic acoustic
> instrument. I
> > > do not know whether you work already with some kind of distortion, but
> > > this one goes far beyond all you could think until now about
> distortion.
> > > And while the most synth audio modules require very constant
> sound, the
> > > waveshaper shows its real pwoer with dynamic input material from
> ppp to
> > > fff.
> > >
> > > A-114 as Ring modulator is very nice, but it is only one single sound,
> > > which could be achived very similar also by audiomodulation of a
> filter
> > > or VCA.
> > >
> > > A-106 with a clearinet I'd go instead for the A-101-1.
> > >
> > > The A-196 can(!) be very interesting with an clarinet, but don't be
> > > disappointed, if you find, that it is too extreme. If you want the
> > > original PLL usage (transpose frequencies), then a guitar stompbox
> or a
> > > Boss RPS10 might be interesting too.
> > >
> > > A-110 is ok (but modify it so you can tune it through the full range
> > > witht he pot)
> > >
> > > Cancel the A-127 you already have two filters, you don't need this.
> > >
> > > Cancel the A-125, and get instead a used guitar stompbox.
> > >
> > > instead: more CV sources which make your play vivid:
> > > -> Get a Sample and Hold and a Slew Limiter, i think there is a AS
> combi
> > > module.
> > >
> > > Some kind of analogue sequencer, not the A155, but maybe a
> A160/161 or a
> > > A151 plus a mixer.
> > >
> > > Trigger them by the gate out from the 119, and each note will have a
> > > different sound.
> > >
> > > finally: you will be in need of multiples. So don't forget them.
> > >
> > > Florian
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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