hi paul, i would like to clarify a few points from your post. please
do not take this as a flame.

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> >i beleive that the shaltwerk and,possibly,regelwerk can be
extensions of the a100 modular,<
> Well, if you patch your favorite guitar effect pedal (or an
external filter bank or whatever) into the signal flow of the A-100
then you extend the modular as well. But do you have to discuss it in
here I don´t think so!

the ....werk boxes are from the same company as the A100, doepfer.
they have the same livery as the A100. the cv and gate voltages are
in the same range. these boxes were invariablely built to control the
A100 hence the cv and gate jacks on the back.remember what
the ....werk boxes are, they are sequencers among the other functions
that are tied in with them. owning the A100 systems and both of
the ...werk boxes and trying to use them properly with a few
additions brings a certain validity for discussion on this group.
once these boxed are sorted out properly, everybody else will profit
from their upgrading.


>
> Folks, I think there´s a Schaltwerk group on Yahoo (or was it
Regelwerk... sorry, I´m not interested in this machines). If you want
to discuss them AND the A-100, then please join both groups and keep
the topics separated.

the reason for discussing them here is due to the fact that doepfer
has practically ignored everybody who posted on its own ez-board
forum. at least we got a few straight and not so straight answers
from doepfer concerning these boxes from this group because voices
and opinions were heard( thanks bakis). now maybe they will do
something for the customers who have paid for them and to the future
buyers who will know that they have a function rich machine that is
not choked from the get go with an inadequate cpu, memory and proper
musical functions.

at least ripe101 is willing to re-write the code for the schaltwerk
for free because he sees the potential in the the machine. it seems
sad that doepfer do not have the same enthusiam as he does with
regards to the schaltwerk. it's like having a child and putting him
in a foster home because you neither have the will or energy to put
into its well being.

i agree with you that all future features that people want should go
to the ...werk group, but some of them might benefit the ....werk
boxes and A100 users if they are discussed here to get a different
perspective. you never who can come up with a brilliant idea because
they might have a different thought than the ones at the ...werk
group. the note tie issue some how eclipsed the minds at doepfer,
that a user offered a simple solution to the problem because it was
being dicussed on the forum actually made sense to doepfer programmer
Chris.

i am sorry to hear that you uninterested in any of the ...werk boxes.
once they are up and running properly, you and future users will no
doubt benefit from the tactile and simple layout of these boxes. the
joy of instant interaction with your A100 and other gear without
having to boot up a computer or use a mouse and have preset patterns
and songs available at the push of a button.


>
> Did anyone think about rewriting the A-190´s software when talking
about software updates I´d really really like to see the arpeggiator
implemented in A-190´s performance-mode #5 one day.

i agree with you here, but i find the resolution and functions of the
A190 a little thin. so i use another device to get by. i can't say
the same about the ....werk boxes, having invested a considerale sum
into them.

>But instead you´re making your brains smoke when it comes to the
>*****werks´ OS update or even redesign. A little bit off-topic in my
>opinion.

in your opinion, it is a little off topic because you don't have a
dollar invested in them. believe me if you owned one or both of them
you would be crying to have them upgraded. everyone will benefit from
an upgrade, the users who have them, the future ones and a better
public image for doepfer for doing something about it. if i had the
programming skills to re-write the code for the schaltwerk, i would
do it just like ripe101 is doing. i bought these boxes to make music
with them and my A100 system.


> Does anyone know the AHOT (Analog Heaven Off-Topic) - list

i don't suscribe to AH or AHOT, so i can't comment on it. the ...werk
boxes are not off topic, they deal with musical functions that are
relayed through cv and gate output jacks to control (much like the
A155) the A100 system in the same voltage ranges .

>What about running a similar list in parallel to the A-100 list
>Everyone who wants to join may join. I won´t.
> THIS GROUP IS FOR DISCUSSING THE A-100 SYSTEM... MAKE GOOD USE OF
IT! (Bakis, sorry for the sarcasm :-)

the group should remain open to all things that are doepfer related
as bakis suggested. if ...werk posts do not concern you , you have
the ability to not read them if you wish. once the ...werk boxes are
functioning properly you may want to prick up your ears and listen to
the ideas and thoughts that people will be saying about them. until
then let's see that they get the proper upgrade they deserve and
stimulate some ideas for doepfer to use in the process of upgrading
them.

kindest regards,
RM
>
> all the best
> Paul
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bakis Sirros
> To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: 1 Re: Gosh it is halfe baked!
>
>
> hi joe and all the others,
> please,feel free to speak about anything that has to
> do with the a100 and that includes the shaltwerk
> and,possibly the regelwerk...despite what dieter
> doepfer thinks,i beleive that the shaltwerk
> and,possibly,regelwerk can be extensions of the a100
> modular,so,i don't mind...i would never want to be
> considered as a"friend of the company" in a bad way.i
> mean ,i am a friend of dieter doepfer(i hope he thinks
> the same for me...), but that doesn't mean that i
> don't want the members of the group to talk about any
> a100 related problems...and,of course,feel free to
> tell us any complaints...THIS GROUP IS NOT FOR
> MARKETING NEW A100 MODULES!I MEAN THAT!so,...MAKE GOOD
> USE OF IT! :-)
> BAKIS.
>
>
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