hi list,
o.k....(dieter will probably kill me for this...)i
have a very,very early unfinished A102 diode filter
prototype.i can tell you it sounds REALLY different
from all the other a100 filters.sounds somewhat like
my vcs3 but that's not really the point.what matters
is that it sounds GOOD!!dieter told me that the a102
module that will go into production is much better
than my early prototype.so,i think,it will be really
good!!(sorry,dieter...:-))
bakis.


--- bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... > wrote:

> hello,
> if you read carefully to the text about the tb303
> filterthat you have told us about,you'll see that
> the
> tb303 uses "...transistors used as diodes..."and NOT
> diodes as the ems filter.the ems filter uses
> diodes!!!
> bakis.
>
>
> --- modularcharles < ospengler@... > wrote:
> > Yes, I should have added that while the TB-303 has
> > the most widely-
> > known diode filter, emulated on umpteen computers
> in
> > ReBirth, in
> > Oakley's superladder filter and TB-3031, and
> > elsewhere, it's
> > basically a -18 dB version of the Moog design, and
> > that the Doepfer
> > diode filter would be patterned on the EMS, as is
> > the version sold by
> > Modcan.
> >
> > People who want to get a sense of the sound of an
> > EMS-type diode
> > filter can check out this mp3 of the Modcan
> version:
> >
> > http://www.mazilu.com/mp3/Diode.MP3
> >
> > As you'll hear, yes, it has a unique sound and
> > definitely not that of
> > the TB-303 (which also has a unique sound).
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., phaedra@t... wrote:
> > > An original moog filter like the minimoog has 24
> > dB-lowpass-
> > filters, a four time special tuned cascade of 6dB.
> > > the TB303 has a rebuild 3 cascade with 18 dB.,
> > which have lite
> > other tunings and another saturation.
> > > The particular of the A-102 is the dependence
> > between emphasis and
> > cutoff, there are modulations between the
> > > two components by tuning one of it or both.
> > > It is not the same as the A-103, which is a
> > rebuild of the TB303
> > filter.
> > > If you ever heard of or worked with an EMS
> Synth,
> > you would know
> > the difference between these filters.
> > > I'm not a technician, but I have good ears and
> > know both.
> > > The A-102 will be a very special filter with a
> > very good and
> > different sound to the TB303, believe me!
> > > best regards
> > > Axel
> > >
> > > Am 05.06.02 18:08:35, schrieb "modularcharles"
> > <ospengler@r...>:
> > >
> > > >The TB-303 filter is in fact a diode filter, as
> > described in this
> > > >document:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufacturers/Roland/TB-
> > > >303/info/roland.TB-303.secrets 0048
> > > >
> > > >Therefore, it is your information which is
> wrong
> > and not mine.
> > > >
> > > >All the best back,
> > > >
> > > >--Charles
> > > >
> > > >--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., phaedra@t... wrote:
> > > >> The TB303-filter is a three time moog cascade
> > and has nothing to
> > do
> > > >with diode filtering.
> > > >> Also when many people havn't even heard of
> EMS
> > is it wrong to
> > give
> > > >such information.
> > > >> Better nothing than something wrong, okay
> > > >> all the best
> > > >> axel
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 05.06.02 17:55:24, schrieb
> "modularcharles"
> > <ospengler@r...>:
> > > >>
> > > >> >No argument there.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >However, that wasn't the question. The
> > question was "what
> > > >instrument
> > > >> >is *usually* associated with a diode
> filter".
> > The obvious
> > answer
> > > >is
> > > >> >the TB-303, fetishized by technoheads
> > worldwide. Most of those
> > > >> >people haven't even heard of EMS.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Therefore the word "bullshit" really doesn't
> > apply here.
> > Better
> > > >luck
> > > >> >next time, though -- I'm sure you'll find a
> > good use for the
> > word
> > > >and
> > > >> >all that caffeine sometime soon.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., phaedra@t...
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Bullshit! It is the filter of the EMS
> > synthesizers!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Am 05.06.02 17:42:22, schrieb
> > "modularcharles"
> > <ospengler@r...>:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >The TB-303.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe"
> > <buechlerjoe@t...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> Meanwhile, what's the diode filter's
> > claim to fame What
> > > >> >instrument
> > > >> >> >is
> > > >> >> >> usually associated with a diode filter
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Joe
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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