Ummm, there's nothing "buzzy" about the sine in the Z3000. I think that
word was being used in the thread for another VCO.

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laryn91 (09:34 AM 11/25/2008) wrote:

>I don't think anyone is advocating that VCOs should produce a "perfect"

sine.

>Just simply a clean wave what has no audible buzz or distortion. That 's
>what defines a
>sine - just the fundamental component. Anything else is NOT A SINE WAVE.
>
>It seems either ignorant, sloppy or misleading for a manufacturer to
>intentionally make a
>buzzy wave and then spec it as "sine" wave. At the very least label it
>something more
>accurate like "buzzy wave beta testers like" ;-)
>
>You can always start with a clean sine and add distortion as needed, but you
>can't go the
>other way and cleanly remove the buzz to get a decent sine. I'm guessing
>those
>rationalizing against the usefulness of clean sine waves for music synthesis
>have never
>even used one (since nobody seems to make them anymore...).
>
>
>--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "Mark" <mark@...> wrote:
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>>
>> Hi James;
>>
>> Tiptop didn't set out to make a perfect sine - in fact, one of the
>> things that the testers talked about during beta was just how
>> wonderful this sine _sounds_. I agree that I wouldn't use this sine as
>> a LFO source for the perfect panner or some-such, but you really
>> should hear this one in a track.
>>
>> And to that point, the sound of this module (specifically the sine)
>> doesn't have as much to do with the sine itself, but how the VCO gets
>> you between pitches. :) That's what you really wanna hear.
>>
>> I (and I figure most of us here) have a LOT of VCOs in their system.
>> They each have their place, and sometimes many places. The Tiptop has
>> created it's niche too. :)
>>
>> Mark
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>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , James Husted <ersatzplanet@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it.
>> > - http://vimeo.com/2206614
>> > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display
>> > shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on
>> > the spectrum display.
>>
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