--- Dieter Doepfer < hardware@... > wrote:

> From: "Dieter Doepfer" < hardware@... >
> To: "bakis Sirros" < synth_freak_2000@... >
> Subject: AW: RE: 1 info from
> doepfer!about the ribboncontrollerandsensor ke...
> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:17:42 +0200
>
> Dear Bakis,
>
> thanks for the copy of the message below. Normally I
> observe about 90% of the
> messages of the group when I'm in the company (i.e.
> when I'm not in holidays or
> vistiting fairs or similar).
>
> Some group members complain that I do not join the
> group and take part in the
> discussions. This has different reasons:
>
> 1. I understand the forum as a customer group
> completely independent of Doepfer.
> I'm not sure if this remains the same when I appear
> as a member in the group
> (especially for new members).
> 2. I do not want to take a stand to the products of
> competitors (many items
> concern competitors too). I think it is bad style to
> criticize competitors.
> 3. Last but not least I do not have sufficient time
> to give my view to all
> messages. Most of the messages would require this
> from me as a part of the
> group.
>
>
> Sometimes I feel sorry not to be a member -
> especially when technically wrong
> statements are given by a member (not only
> concerning Doepfer products but even
> general wrong basic information).
>
> But everybody is open to contact me directly and I
> think so far I replied each
> email - even if it may take some time as I'm very
> busy (remember my sideline: I
> have to manage a company).
>
> Concerning the module suggestions there is a general
> problem: It takes at least
> 3 months to develop a new module or another device
> (basic considerations, pcb
> layout, prototype building and testing, software
> design for some products, front
> panel or case/housing design, redesigns if there
> occur problems, writing
> preliminary and final infos, taking pictures,
> writing user manuals and service
> manuals and many more). For more complex products
> like the touch sensor keyboard
> the required time is much longer. Of course for very
> simple designs (e.g. CV
> source A-176 or voltage inverter A-175 or mixer
> A-138) the development time was
> much less.
> This means that we are able to publish not more than
> about 4 modules/devices per
> year. And for these ~4 devices we have to pay
> attention not to generate a "flop"
> as we have to pay the salaries for our employees
> every month. We made the
> experience that the sales are much less for more
> "exotic" and more expensive
> modules or devices (e.g. we sell much less
> Theremins/Shepards/Vocoders/Subharmonics that
> VCFs/ADSRs/LFOs/VCOs).
>
> But I think that the group's suggestions for the
> proceeding for new exotic
> modules (like Nintendo or space mouse controllers)
> is a good starting point. We
> could try to collect advance orders and then
> calculate the price based on the
> number of advance orders. As soon as the price is
> defined the customers may
> decide if they accept the price. When too many
> orderers jump off the price will
> have to be re-calculated because of the new
> conditions. It is a bit complicated
> but it may work. I think we will try this for the
> Nintendo and space mouse
> module. For the space mouse module I would advise
> against as the transmission
> rate from the space mouse is too small from our
> point of view. But it seems that
> some customers would accept this. Another question
> is if we should manufacture a
> product we do no stand by (as for the space mouse
> controller). I'm not sure if
> we should offer a product with drawbacks known in
> advance even if some customers
> ask for this product.
>
> And one last statement: When we know that there is a
> module already available
> from one of our competitors we (normally) do not
> develop a similar product. Of
> course there are exceptions: If a competitor
> publishes a module after we
> finished a similar product we normally will offer
> our module too as we already
> invested the development costs. But generally we
> think that the small community
> of analog modular systems manufacturer should not
> make their live harder as it
> is already. We have good relationship with some
> other manufacturers (e.g. Bob
> Williams of Analogue Systems, or the common Super
> Booth at the Frankfurt show
> together with Technosaurus, Analogue Solutions,
> Vermona, Sherman, Moog and
> others). As an example we will not develop a new
> high end VCO as there are some
> solutions already available from our competitors (or
> even friends).
>
> You may publish this statement in the forum if
> desired.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
> http://www.doepfer.de
> email: hardware@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: bakis Sirros
> [mailto: synth_freak_2000@... ]
> > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 23. Juli 2002 14:13
> > An: dieter doepfer
> > Betreff: Fwd: RE: 1 info from
> doepfer!about the
> > ribboncontrollerandsensor ke...
> >
> >
> > --- David Salter < david.salter@... > wrote:
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: David Salter < david.salter@... >
> > > Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:13:56 +0100
> > > Subject: RE: 1 info from
> doepfer!about
> > > the
> > > ribboncontrollerandsensor ke...
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > I hope it does make it to production.
> > >
> > > Very exciting idea.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what Doepfers take on releasing
> > > intellectual property is but this thing would be
> of
> > > interest to modular users regardless of the
> origin
> > > of the modules.
> > >
> > > Maybe Bakis (are you there Bakis ) could could
> have
> > > a quite word with Dieter - I like the idea of a
> > > limited edition or small production run for
> those of
> > > us who either don't play keys or are more
> > > experimentally orientated (I fall into both
> > > categories).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Salter
> > > Reuters Consulting
> > > Tel: +44 20 7542 2402
> > > Mob: +44 7990562402
> > > Fax: +44 20 7542 2699
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: davevosh@...
> [mailto: davevosh@... ]
> > > Sent: 23 July 2002 11:53
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: 1 info from
> doepfer!about
> > > the ribboncontrollerandsensor ke...
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/23/2002 6:01:28 AM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > david.salter@... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The n-64 controller is a superb idea. I love
> that
> > > fact the not only do you
> > > > get a couple of continuous controllers but
> the
> > > ability to trigger events,
> > > > envelopes, sequencers or resetting lfo's, all
> > > from one controller. Amazing.
> > > > I hope it does get into production, even if
> it's
> > > done as a limited edition
> > > > or short run.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hello david,
> > > i agree ( and have lobbied for it, so far
> without
> > > being able to whip up much
> > > enthusiasm from most folks :^( ) - i think
> this
> > > device would offer
> > > tremendous flexibility in being able to conduct
> /
> > > interact with patches. one
> > > of the neatest ideas i`ve seen in a while but
> looks
> > > like it may not come to
> > > fruition.
> > > if its absolutely dead as a product, perhaps
> > > doepfer would consider
> > > releasing the schematics to the d.i.y.
> community -
> > >
> > > best,
> > > dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
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