That looks like a nice set-up.
Question - do you mean Dark Energy or A111-5
The dark Energy has a built in midi interface that provides CV & gate
out for other modules so I don't think the A190-2 is needed.
David
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Wow.
The response & knowledge being shed is amazing. Thank you, I am very
grateful (David, York, Nick, Ernst & the others :)
So im really starting to understand this more and more by the click of
my mouse :)
Here is my updated list..I think this should cover it!
Other Brands:
Geiger Counter
B:assMaster
Metasonix R53
Doepfer:
A100P9 (case)
A-143-1 Quad AD Generator
A138-b log Mixer
A-114 Ring Modulator
A132-1 Dual VCA
A119 input
A137-1 & A137-2 Wave Multipliers,
A106 Xtrene Filter
A-111-5 Dark Energy (Why the hell not!)
A190-2 MIDI (For Dark Energy)
Can I make loud demonic noises yet pllllease !
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<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , "doof_per" <doof_per@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Bakkis & Robert:
> Point noted and taken :)
>
> Thanks guys, I will do just that :)
>
>
>
> David:
>
> "Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise
if your not just processing external sounds."
>
> - For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.
>
> "Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's
and I promise you can never have enough of these."
>
> - Would you not say that my list has that Could you recommend any
essential units Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I
should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)
>
> "It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"
>
> - I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape
& distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.
>
>
> --- In
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<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> , Robbert Jan Rink
<robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra
amount
> > while it offers more flexibility in the future!
> >
> > Robbert
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to
control as
> > > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> > >
> > > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and
VCA's and
> > > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a
cool
> > > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination
or one
> > > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act
as
> > > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> > >
> > > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and
noise if
> > > your not just processing external sounds.
> > >
> > > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> > >
> > > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,
do
> > > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a
largish
> > > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
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> > > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> > >
> > > To:
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: 1 Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > > Whoa!
> > >
> > > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS
GUYS!
> > >
> > > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning
a
> > > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting
clearer!
> > >
> > > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources
from my
> > > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I
would
> > > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around
which
> > > units/brand do what exaclty.
> > >
> > > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand
from
> > > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> > >
> > > Others Brands:
> > > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> > >
> > > Doepfer:
> > > A119input
> > > A100P6 (case)
> > > A124Wasp
> > > A-140 env1eope
> > > A-115audiodivider
> > > A-116waveshaper
> > > A-136distortion
> > > A-188 BBD
> > > A187-1
> > > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> > >
> > > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160
> > > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116
> > > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131
> > >
> > > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them
dearly :)
> > >
> > > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning
box of
> > > destruction heehee :)
> > >
> > > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono
anyways.
> > >
> > > You guys rock!!
> > >
> > > --- In
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll
probably love
> > > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing
and raw
> > > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter +
Metasonix
> > > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to
unbearable
> > > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so
be
> > > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on
the last
> > > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > > >
> > > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you
like
> > > digital noise.
> > > >
> > > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more
modules,
> > > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules
you
> > > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them
with
> > > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every
module
> > > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your
system
> > > for the first time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > > , Bakis Sirros
> > >
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for
weird and
> > > harsh noises.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 group owner
> > > > >
> > > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > > >
> > > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > > >
> > > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > > >
> > > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > > >
> > > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > > Subject: AW: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > > To:
Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do
you want
> > > to use
> > > > >
> > > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds
into
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer
vast
> > > > >
> > > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go
wrong
> > > there. Apart
> > > > >
> > > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116,
A-136),
> > > wave
> > > > >
> > > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's
just
> > > Doepfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the
basic
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out
that you
> > > have no
> > > > >
> > > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get
stuff that
> > > suits
> > > > >
> > > > > you more.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that
the
> > > people that
> > > > >
> > > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with
prog
> > > rock or
> > > > >
> > > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > > produce
> > > > >
> > > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > > sounds
> > > > >
> > > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > > processor
> > > > >
> > > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules,
like
> > > filters
> > > > >
> > > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing
with
> > > your
> > > > >
> > > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more
VCA's,
> > > envelopes,
> > > > >
> > > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent
amount
> > > of these.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > York
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Von:
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
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> > >
> > >
> > > [mailto:
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<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
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> > > ] Im
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > > >
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > > >
> > > > > An:
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<doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com
<doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Betreff: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out
modular gear
> > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up
enough
> > > to get
> > > > >
> > > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard
from
> > > other
> > > > >
> > > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant
afford
> > > > >
> > > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > > mechanical/industrial
> > > > >
> > > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make
it
> > > right and
> > > > >
> > > > > come "alive".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer ) for my sound Ive
heard
> > > allot of
> > > > >
> > > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is
rather
> > > really
> > > > >
> > > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and
love
> > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with
it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this
sound
> > > im
> > > > >
> > > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or
for a
> > > "Basic
> > > > >
> > > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids
etc etc
> > > but
> > > > >
> > > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak
before
> > > I make
> > > > >
> > > > > my order.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer
advice
> > > on lol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for reading :)
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