Some basic misunderstanding here! I wrote that I thought 100euro to be a
good price. If Doepfer can't make it that cheap I perfectly understand... I
also wrote a higher price for a good module is fine by me. I just followed
on the suggested price... who set the 100 euro price

/Andreas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bakis Sirros" < synth_freak_2000@... >
To: "Doepfer_a100 group" < doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Fwd: AW:[Doepfer_a100]I like the new modules -thumbs up.DOEPFER'S
ANSWER!


>
> --- Dieter Doepfer < hardware@... > wrote:
> > From: "Dieter Doepfer" < hardware@... >
> > To: "Bakis Sirros" < synth_freak_2000@... >
> > Subject: AW: 1 I like the new modules -
> > thumbs up.
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:55:59 +0200
> >
> > Bakis, please forward ...
> >
> > > Concerning the Vu meter I find 100 euro ok as a
> > price but then it has to
> > include many of
> > > the functions that has been discussed here, you
> > all know the features that
> > has been up,
> > > cromatic tuner etc.... I can even consider paying
> > more if it turns out
> > > really good, but for something very basic and a
> > bit flimsy I think 100 is
> > > too much for me. So a prospect of features on the
> > planned VUmodule would
> > > help to tell if the price is fair or not.
> >
> > I think this will not be possible. Here is a simple
> > calculation (our
> > purchase prices):
> >
> > meter 44 GBP ~ 65 Euro
> > front panel ~ 15...20 Euro
> > pcb ~ 5 Euro
> >
> > So our purchase price will be at least 80 Euro
> > without charges for
> > development, assembly, writing manuals and so on.
> > And you have to take into
> > consideration that we have to give discount to every
> > dealer/representative.
> > So I have to correct myself. 100 Euro is too less
> > for the final price of the
> > VU (you will understand that we want to earn a few
> > bugs too).
> >
> >
> > > I am also a bit curious about the 196, what kind
> > of cheap VCO is in that
> > unit that makes it cheaper than a
> > > standard VCO Can it also be used as a plain VCO
> >
> > The VCO in the A-196 is very simple as it is part of
> > a closed-loop
> > frequency-feedback system. It is not very stable (no
> > temperature
> > compensation), has only linear control input and
> > only rectangle output with
> > ~ 50% PW. For the PLL application this is OK as the
> > frequency of the VCO is
> > controlled in the feedback loop and the
> > disadvantages mentioned above do not
> > make any differences in the PLL application.
> > Actually the VCO is part of the
> > PLL circuit used in the A-196 (insiders will know
> > the 4046 PLL). The A-196
> > VCO can be used a simple linear VCO but cannot be
> > compared to the A-110 or
> > A-111 that have exponential control, temperature
> > compensation, different
> > waveform outputs and PWM for the rectangle). These
> > two parts of the normal
> > VCO circuits (temperature compensated exp converter)
> > are the large-scale
> > parts of the circuit. We already considered a
> > low-cost VCO bank made of
> > several linear VCOs (4046 type) but we are not sure
> > if this really makes
> > sense.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
>
>
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