--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:

> hello ringmod,
> many thanks for your info!
> i,too,beleive that the doepfer TKB should have all the
> features that are proposed in the TKB webpage,at
> least.dieter should NOT subtract features,only ADD,if
> possible.and i agree that touch plates are great!MIDI
> is great too!the TKB can have cv/gate outs and midi
> out.what's the problem with that

Hi Bakis,

None , whatsoever!

it will only give you more interactivity with your modular and the
software of your choice.

It would be nice if the TKB had a usb jack on it interface directly
with a desktop or laptop computer. No More midi cables, a full
duplex connection. It would be nice if the the tkb had a row of
rotary encoders, oh the possibilities.

RM

> doepfer,please,give us the TKB!
> bakis.
>
>
>
> --- ringmod45 <ringmod45@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bakis and Mr Doepfer,
> >
> > The proposed TKB is bound for failure, feature and
> > function wise,
> > idealistically speaking. Not every feature, one
> > wants, will be able
> > to be implemented.
> >
> > Let's get the basics straight. First, the proposed
> > Doepfer TKB is
> > modelled after the two of the most sought after and
> > expressive
> > analogue controllers out there, the Buchla 219 Touch
> > Keyboard and the
> > Serge TKB. Here are the url's;
> >
> >
> http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/219-keyboard.html
> >
> > http://www.scampers.com/EGRES/wiz_seq.htm
> >
> > These are features and functions the proposed
> > Doepfer TKB is based
> > upon. This the foundation from which to build upon
> > and not to
> > subtract from. Mr. Doepfer and Company have done a
> > Good Job so far,
> > it just needs to be tweaked some more.
> >
> > The pressure voltage, derived by
> > capacitance-activated touch plates
> > or keys, is the most natural and expressive control
> > in electrical
> > terms. It is very similar to playing a string
> > instrument. It is
> > direct and immediate, finger to touch plate, unlike
> > an organ manual,
> > finger to plastic key, plastic key to trigger
> > contact.
> >
> > The whole point of the proposed Doepfer TKB is bring
> > elements of the
> > above mentioned controllers and not to have a organ
> > style manual
> > dictate how it should be or perform. There are very
> > few of these
> > controllers around for people to make remarks or
> > opine ideas on how
> > they should be built, so it should be modelled from
> > the originals
> > with input from people who have used and understand
> > them.
> >
> > The electronics of the Buchla 219 were then adapted
> > to an organ style
> > manual. Here is the url,
> >
> > http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/keys-23X.html
> >
> http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/images/237-large.jpeg
> >
> > Since we live in the microprocessor age, it is only
> > feasible and
> > logical to have midi onboard. Building the proposed
> > Doepfer TKB,
> > Analogue style, would be cost prohibitive. It should
> > be modular in
> > its approach to allow for expansion of I/O and
> > sequencer functions
> > and not the other way around.
> >
> > To hear a touch keyboard in action, please check
> > some of Charles
> > Cohen's mp3's to give you an idea. Here is the url,
> >
> > http://phobos.serve.com/charles_cohen/ D=A
> >
> > Live_at_the_Gathering_19981212 - - track 2 and 3 are
> > pretty good
> > indications of the Buchla sound and touchplates.
> >
> > Regards,
> > RM
> >
> >
> > > --- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@d...> wrote:
> > > > From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
> > > > To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> > > > Subject: Please forward ...
> > > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:50:54 +0100
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe its because the current version of the
> > TKB
> > > > received an
> > > > > unenthusiastic response at trade shows. I
> > still
> > > > wonder if the
> > > > > keyboard appearance might have caused
> > confusion:
> > > > it may have looked
> > > > > to many like a cheap alternative to a real
> > > > keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > This is not the main reason. Our biggest problem
> > -
> > > > as mentioned several
> > > > times - are the many different, partly even
> > > > contradictory suggestions (e.g.
> > > > number of potentiometer rows, MIDI features,
> > > > analog/digital sequencer
> > > > features, mono/polyphony, plates like a "normal"
> > > > keyboard or simply equal
> > > > shaped plates and so on ....).
> > > > In contrast to other projects we see no clear
> > line
> > > > which features (or even
> > > > non-features, e.g. we received messages from
> > several
> > > > customers that they
> > > > will not buy the TKB if it will include MIDI or
> > if
> > > > it will look like a
> > > > normal keyboard or if it will include a digital
> > > > sequencer or ...).
> >
> >
> > > > > > Best wishes
> > > > Dieter Doepfer
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
> Bakis Sirros
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