Hi Thomas,
I tend to agree mostly with zoran

A-102: resonance range is not optimal; hard to fine-tune
(A.Sol. RS500e is much more to my liking ; but it's price is almost
double)

A-109: nice alround filter, but I generally prefer 12db over 24db
slopes. Really appreciate the built-in mixer & VCA though

A-105; sold it quickly, but regret this a little now

A-124; nice for what it does; excellent price/performance ratio

A-120: sold it almost immediately; no beef

A-121; quite versatile; resonance range quite well laid out

A-107: like it, but have not yet explored it to the max

A.Sol. SY02: nice & dirt but resonance range not enough (supposed to
be adjustable from the trimmers; not tried yet)

I currently also have an eye on the A-108; mixing between the 6 & 24
db outputs seems quite appealing to me

regards
Joost




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "Zoran Bosnjak" <dj_allin@h...>
wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> this is my favourite subject: filters! And even better: I will not

hide what

> I liked about four filters I owned from Doepfer! So, let's start my
> completely subjective comment.
>
> First: mighty A-108. Description: fat, but not Moog warm. It

reminds me on

> Roland System 100 model 101 filter when making bass sounds (I owned

Model

> 101, and compared it directly to A-108. I even have a bass sample

done with

> both. They sound very close in that sample.) When cutoff is more

open, it

> has even a glimpse of legendary SH-101 - the most sinister filter

ever if

> you ask me (notice I did not use the word "best"). Also, A-108 is

very

> punchy - I started the thread on AH about how to get punchy VCA

(after

> hearing Arp 2600), just to discover that explosiveness on A-108.

This filter

> might take over "filter techno crown" that resides somewhere in

Roland

> family, probably with SH-101 :-)
>
> Second: WASP from Doepfer. You said: cheap sound, and that's

exactly how I

> felt when I returned it. But it would be great for big loop sweeps

in your

> average house club. Dirty energy.
>
> Third: A-102. Pleasant, mild character. Kind of EMS. No bite.

But... Chaos

> starts when self oscillating it, and FM-ing. Unbelievable range of

ringing

> wierdness, not likable all the time. One of those things that I

felt were

> 90% there, but "no cigar", because something is constantly missing

(or

> rather say - too much is there). Just like FM NovaMod I did on my

SH-101 -

> if only I could remove 10% of the sound, it would be pure gold. Big

miss on

> A-102 - lack of resonance control by CV . Why making filter with

wacky

> resonance behaviour, and not being able to control it If A-102 had

that

> input, I would have kept it (instead of CV3 input). I guess it's

not late

> for version 2 - I promise publicly to buy that one.
>
> Fourth: A-109. Sweet! But it's Curtis, so I will not talk too much

about it.

> Pleasant, polite, not too fat. I will probably sell it in the

future, when I

> get...
>
> My next filter buy: Quad Lowpass Gate (I checked samples on

Cynthia's web

> site, and I can only say: where have you been all my life - filter,

of

> course:-)
>
> So, again: this is completely subjective comment! ("One man's

stream is

> another man's poison" - or at least something like that, verse from

Giant

> Sand)
>
> Regards
>
> Zoran
>
> >From: "thomasborax" <thomasborax@y...>
> >Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: 1 q's
> >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:19:05 -0000
> >
> >hi folks. my questions in the past have all been answered in a
> >helpful mannner, thank you to all on this list.
> >here's today's queries:
> >
> >the a108 filter. this seems like a good one for me. however, i
> >currently have the Asol sy01 w/ moog ladder 24db lpf. i must say

it

> >is dull, boring and filters too much of the signal out. it's so

dull

> >it almost seems like a volume nob. i had a frostwave ms20 clone,

and

> >(never A/Bed it with an ms20, couldn't tell you if it was in fact
> >ms20-like) i thought that, by contrast, was a very good filter
> >sound. i like greasy, slimy flatulent filters. i have a wasp
> >a124. it's cool, but perhaps has TOO much charactor. a very cheap
> >sound, which is good for me, though not all the time. i've
> >understood that the a108 can be overdriven to make dirty sounds.
> >please comment, for those who have experience with the filter. my
> >first thought is that i don't care for the typical moog lpf, but it
> >seems that this is more versatile and has a great range. i think
> >using the 12 and 6db outputs would be more appropriate to my type

of

> >sound.
> >
> >also a i wonder about the spring reverb unit. is this worth

looking

> >into i've heard some units with very short springs, and they
> >didn't sound so cool. do any of you feel that this has been a good
> >unit for depth, spashy verb and other effects
> >
> >thanks to those who reply-
> >yours((000
> >tom
> >
>
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