I agree completely. The rack rail/self contained PS is the way to go. That is the sticking point that prevents me from buying more Doepfer modules right now, I can't justify that when I can buy a frac rack and power supply for less than $100...and put Blacet/Wiard/whatever in it.

- RSA

pwagorn < pwagorn@... > wrote:



The problem is not that the G6 units are overpriced. It does seem
like a fair price for what you get ... BUT that's not the problem.
We all don't want a ferrari.

What dooepfer needs is an alternative.

there are enough people complaining (me included) about the g6
prices that it's obvious that many people stop adding modules
because it costs approx $400 for a G6 to add more modules. it's
obvious.

in any case, a very good alternative would be what MOTM does. IE
sell rack rails that go in a standard rack (I think MOTM sells them
for $15) . forget the buss boards & just make a simple power supply
with wires coming out of it & plugs on the end. MOTM's is $159.
Make the power supply support lots of modules so you don't have to
buy a power supply for every 2 rows.

Blammo - instant cheap, solid mounting. I don't need a ferrari, i
just want my modules to go in a standard rack case.

paul






--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
wrote:

>
> --- Dieter Doepfer wrote:
> > From: "Dieter Doepfer"
> > To: "Bakis Sirros"
> > Subject: AW: 1 Prohibitive cost of G6
> > hurts module buyers
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:17:12 +0100
> >
> > please forward ...
> >
> > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: grove@z... [mailto:grove@z...]
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Januar 2004 05:18
> > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: 1 Prohibitive cost of G6
> > hurts module buyers
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps the solution is for Doepfer to sell G6
> > cases at a bargain price,
> > > which would make them more accessible to more
> > musicians. This would
> > > mean Doepfer's core business (selling modules)
> > would improve markedly.
> >
> > Believe it or not: The G3/G6 are the A-100 products
> > with the smallest
> > profit. When selling the G3/G6 via dealers we earn
> > approx. nothing (due to
> > the dealers rebate). We make money with the modules,
> > not with the frames. I
> > know this problem but the prices for the frames,
> > top/bottom covers, rear
> > panels, bus boards, power supply and so on do not
> > allow smaller prices.
> > You may built your own frame by ordering the
> > mechanical parts from our
> > supplier (ProMa, a link is on our web site) and you
> > will see that you come
> > to the same price for a G6/G3 or even more.
> >
> > > I can't justify the price for an empty G6 case
> > with just a buss board
> > > and power supply for AUD1000, but if the G6 case
> > was like, AUD250,
> > > which is a more realistic price for a commodity
> > pressed metal
> > > box with a basic standard Power supply and buss
> > board,
> > > I know I would be buying modules every month.
> > >
> > > As it is, I just shudder at the thought of buying
> > an empty box.
> > > I know if I paid $1000 for an empty G6, my partner
> > would shoot me.
> > >
> > > I am a big fan of Doepfer modulars. If Dieter
> > sells me a G6 cheap,
> > > I'll guarantee that I'll fill it full of his
> > modules in a heartbeat.
> > > I betcha every person on this list would agree and
> > do the same.
> > >
> > > C'mon Doepfer, give the cases away cheap and your
> > modules will
> > > sell themselves and walk out the door in their
> > hundreds.
> >
> >
> > We think about another low cost case made by the
> > manufacturer who builts the
> > other cases (like Pocket series/MCV4/MSY2/MAQ...).
> > But this would be built
> > in a much easier way (no aluminium rails, no
> > separate side plates and back
> > panels, no threaded insert, but a single metal case
> > made of 1mm steel with )
> > and not compatible with the common 19" standard.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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