i haven't found details about the bbd's used in the ibanez ad 230,
but i assume that this unit uses mn3005 chips too.
best wishes
ingo
--- In
Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
, "Anton Coops" <dubshot@x...>
wrote:
>
> Ingo,
>
> I like the ibanez ad 230, but please don't bother getting details.
The
> new batch Moogerfooger delays would be the alternative, but the
> price is crazy
>
> Anton
>
> On 13 Oct 2005, at 12:42, selfoscillate wrote:
>
> >
> > hello anton,
> >
> > which bbd-delay is that you are speaking of
> > maybe i can get some details about the used circuit.
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > ingo
> >
> >
> > --- In
Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
, "Anton Coops" <dubshot@x>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ingo, hi Florian,
> > >
> > > What I mean with 'solid' is wobble-free bass down to about 150
Hz.
> > I
> > > don't really care about the high frequencies, that's what tape
> > echo's
> > > are for. One of my bbd-delays has 'solid' sound but no vc, so
> > that's
> > > why I asked Dieter for one.. :-)
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > On 13 Oct 2005, at 11:43, selfoscillate wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > hello anton,
> > > >
> > > > 500 ms delays on a bbd-module would greatly decrease
> > > > the frequency range of the audio signal.
> > > > even the biggest bbd-based delays cannot output
> > > > frequencies greater than 1 khz with a delay time of 500 ms.
> > > > so digital delays are much better for such tasks.
> > > >
> > > > best wishes
> > > >
> > > > ingo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In
Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
, "Anton Coops"
<dubshot@x>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Before there were plans for several bbd-modules, but it
sounds
> > like
> > > > > there will be only one big fat extremely cool 'universal'
bbd
> > > > module
> > > > > now Great news!
> > > > >
> > > > > Just one remark: personally I wouldn't mind an additional
bbd
> > > > > module that's optimized for solid sound at delay times
around
> > 500
> > > > > ms or longer, but just as an extra, you know... ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 13 Oct 2005, at 3:34, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hello david,
> > > > > > it's a Switched Capacitor filter. don't ask me though
> > > > > > anything more, i do not know. i guess that it sounds
> > > > > > quite different from the other filter modules dieter
> > > > > > best regards,
> > > > > > bakis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- David Salter <david.salter@r...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fantastic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm really looking forward to the sound files for
> > > > > > > the BBD module, very
> > > > > > > interesting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I may have missed something but any ideas on what
> > > > > > > the " SC-filter " is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rgds
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > dieter says:
> > > > > > > "we are very busy as we want to show some new
> > > > > > > modules
> > > > > > > at the NAMM in January. During the last few days the
> > > > > > > prototype of the BBD module was assembled, tested
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > corrected/improved and I'm confidential that it will
> > > > > > > be ready for NAMM. After the first tests with the
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > BBD circuits I have changed my mind (in my last
> > > > > > > messages I was not sure if we will manufacture a BBD
> > > > > > > module - now I am !). After playing with the
> > > > > > > prototype
> > > > > > > (which looks very confused in the meantime because
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the many additional soldered parts and wires) I
> > > > > > > really love the imperfections and drawbacks of the
> > > > > > > BBDs. I can say that it can be a very extreme
> > > > > > > sounding
> > > > > > > module and it will be up to the musician to use it
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > a standard application (normal flanger/chorus/short
> > > > > > > delay) or beyond the usual conditions. E.g. the BBD
> > > > > > > circuits are normally allowed/specified for a
> > > > > > > minimum
> > > > > > > clock rate of 10kHz. Yesterday we modified the (of
> > > > > > > course voltage controlled) clock oscillator so that
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > can go down to a few hundred Hz. Completely strange
> > > > > > > sounds appear at low clock frequencies as the BBDs
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > operated out of their specifications. It sounds very
> > > > > > > lofi, a bit like a bit cruncher or a the A-112 at
> > > > > > > low
> > > > > > > clock settings. The reason for the strange sound is
> > > > > > > not only the low clock frequency but even the BBD
> > > > > > > behaviour as the 2048 capacitors of the circuit have
> > > > > > > "problems" to keep their charges as the clock
> > > > > > > frequency becomes smaller. In principle a BBD is
> > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > of a lot of capacitors (2048 for our module) and the
> > > > > > > charges are forwarded from one capacitor to the next
> > > > > > > one at each new clock. So it's nothing but an analog
> > > > > > > shift register but limited to a minimum clock rate
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > ~ 10kHz. At lower frequencies signal losses appear
> > > > > > > (in
> > > > > > > addition to the always existing poor signal of a BBD
> > > > > > > device). I will do some MP3's and publish them
> > > > > > > a.s.a.p.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the rest of this week the SC-filter prototype
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > to be assembled and tested and next week the core of
> > > > > > > the universal AD/DA module is planned (smd board
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > processor and delay memory) . I will give you
> > > > > > > details
> > > > > > > as soon as I know more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since 2 weeks we even have much more web space
> > > > > > > available so that we will put more sound examples to
> > > > > > > our web site. But there are so many jobs to do and
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > have to decide what to do first.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best wishes
> > > > > > > Dieter"
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