yes, my eprom reading services are still up on the table. =]

I can't help with re-designing the firmware or sounds. But reading the roms
and posting the bins should be no problem. Email me off list for my mailing
address, etc. I'd love to see this project move along, since i'm interested in the
same type of thing with other devices, and there is very little, if any,
information about this kind of thing on the web. It seems to be uncharted
territory, so it has to start SOMEWHERE. I'll be glad to help any little way i can.

One thing- do we know what kind of chips these are Ryan/plutoniqe
I'll need to know the type before i read them, if it isn't printed on the chips
themselves.

-justin
= burnkit2600.com =

--- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "gregory zifcak" <foleymachine@...> wrote:
>
> ryan,
>
> what's up thanks again for those mods, they got me started on this beast.
> aha, the firmware binaries. this is definitely a worthy cause!
> kingconga, are you still interested i could send you all the 707
> sound roms and the firmware chip (postage paid both ways) if you can
> post the binaries. let me know.
>
> now, shall we start a discussion about requested features let's see:
>
> -midi out in write mode
> -pattern select in write mode (while running)
> -negative shuffle/flam
> -swap patterns between drum sounds (kick plays hh pattern, etc -
> overkill )
> -some type of auto-fill that sends divided clock frequencies to the
> selected sound
>
> exciting,
> greg
>
>
> --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "plutoniq9" <Plutonique9@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gregory,
> >
> > long time no see :) Glad to see people have be makin' use of the
> > 707/727 envelope mods + audio inputs i posted to AH years ago. I've
> > got the full 727 schematics from mark glinksy, but they're A4 so I
> > don't know how i'd scan them, maybe 4MP digital photos would suffice
> > if they were well lit.
> >
> > Anyways, I brought up the binaries because of two issues;
> >
> > - Colin Fraser was tempted to modify the 707/727 firmware a few years
> > back so it could output midi in patter play mode. Perhaps if I
> > provided him with the firmware he'd take a crack at it finally. He
> > owns a 727 himself, so it must be of some interest to him.
> >
> > - The sound roms would also be cool to examine. For reasons of
> > "extracting" the current samples (compressed and unfiltered/or
> > dynamics).....and also figuring out how to burn sounds to new ROMs for
> > them (the current ones are read-only).
> >
> > I think anything is possible really. I upgraded my Casio Sk-8 toy
> > sampler to have 16 banks of memory, so once you've done a mod like
> > that....evrything seem plausable :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ryan (plutonique9)
> >
> > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "gregory zifcak" <foleymachine@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hmmm.
> > >
> > > well if someone can make a case for the value of reading the binaries
> > > i'll pay postage and send them out. i don't have spare 707 chips
> > > though, so maybe someone else wants to send those. burning new
sounds
> > > seems like a cool idea if it's possible, but i'm kind of more
> > > interested in chopping up my 909 at the moment. my 70727 (
> > > http://userwww.sfsu.edu/%7Egzifcak/tr-707.html ) is pretty much a
> > > finished piece unless something drastically cool pops up.
> > >
> > > anyone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "kingconga42" <kingconga8@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > if you pay for postage both ways, i'll read them, send them back,
> > > and post the
> > > > BINs here. (small files)
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to figure out how to burn my own sounds. I've been having
> > this
> > > > discussion with a few people from this forum and others. The machine
> > > i want
> > > > to do this with is the HR-16. I even emailed mr. HR-16 himself,
> > > craig anderton
> > > > (he literally wrote the book on the HR-16), to see if he had any
> > > insight into this.
> > > > He responded to my email within hours, saying he'd forward it to
> > > alesis, but
> > > > that ended up being a dead end. The service manual offered a bit
> more
> > > > insight, but i'm still not there yet.....
> > > >
> > > > I dont have a 707, but my bandmate does, and i have a 505. I know
> > > from CJ
> > > > on this forum, that the roland machines are very tricky in this
> > regard:
> > > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tr-707/message/185
> > > > In addition to sound data on the voice chips, the audio gets
> > > processed by
> > > > filters and ADSRs. And not all the sounds are the same bitrate. By
> > > contrast,
> > > > the HR-16s sounds (i THINK) are all the same bitrate, and only get
> > > minor
> > > > volume processing (i THINK).
> > > >
> > > > So, IN THEORY- you could take a 707 BIN file, open it up as raw data
> > > in an
> > > > audio editor (but you'd need to know the proper bitrate, etc.),
> > > replace some of
> > > > that data with your own, save a new BIN, and burn that to a new
> > > chip. IN
> > > > THEORY. As an experiment, you might want to take a 727 drum
sound,
> > and
> > > > copy and paste it to replace the coresponding 707 drum sound, and
> > > see if
> > > > your new chip will have the new sound on it. I haven't tried this
> > > yet, but a friend
> > > > of mine has, with the HR, and also with the casio sk1. He hasn't had
> > > any luck
> > > > so far, even just changing little things. The new rom will either
> > > not work at all,
> > > > or have undesired results. I think it's because he's converting from
> > > data to
> > > > .wav and back. Maybe the bitrate is slightly off, which would throw
> > > everything
> > > > off. I'll be doing my own experiments with the HR-16 roms soon.
> > > >
> > > > So, long story short- yes, i can copy the roms. But it might be very
> > > tricky to get
> > > > your own sounds on them.
> > > >
> > > > -justin
> > > > = burnkit2600.com =
> > > >
> > > > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "gregory zifcak" <foleymachine@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well, i do have some spare 727 chips. would that be good
> enough for
> > > > > both machines i didn't use no chip desolderer though, i just undo
> > > > > those suckers by hand (and solder wick).
> > > > >
> > > > > i'd be down to send them to you if you send them back after you
> > > read them.
> > > > >
> > > > > so, once you do this you can figure out what needs to be where in
> > > > > those chips and burn your own new sounds onto new ones
> > > > >
> > > > > p9, is this what you have in mind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "kingconga42" <kingconga8@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you would need a chip burner.
> > > > > > Are the chips in the 707 socketed if not, you would need a chip
> > > > > desolderer to
> > > > > > pull them out, and have your chip burner read them. I've
> done this
> > > > > with an
> > > > > > hr-16, but i dont have a 707 or 727. i have a 505, tho....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Send me your chips, and i'll read them for you =]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -justin
> > > > > > = burnkit2600.com =
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "gregory zifcak"
<foleymachine@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > no, i don't know how to do any of that stuff. what does it
> take
> > > > > > > hooking the pins up to some type of computer input and
> > > triggering the
> > > > > > > sounds cj might have something, he seems keen on burning
new
> > > ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In tr-707@yahoogroups.com , "plutoniq9" <Plutonique9@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyone got ROM binaries from the 707 &/Or 727 I'm
> thinkin'
> > > > > it will
> > > > > > > > be gregory if any one :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ryan (Plutonique9)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>