well said ingo!
after all, you could buy two a111-2's and you have
your pair of complex vco's (plus many more things!) in
a much lower price than the buchla module...
best regards, :-)
Bakis.



--- selfoscillate < synaptic_music@... > wrote:

>
> hello guys,
>
> just to clear some things out on the new a111/2
> dynamic vco:
>
> the module uses a special ic for it's functions.
> this ic features not only the vco, but it has also
> the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in.
> since all the parts are already there, they are
> brought
> out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is
> similar
> to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as
> the vcf
> in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle
> core
> waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can
> do
> linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with
> any other
> a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the
> built-in
> panning unit is basically the same as in the a109,
> but
> again you will use it differently in the a111/2.
> in the a111/2 you will use it to create new
> waveforms.
> so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally
> replicate
> some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff
> on-board which is needed for this new vco design,
> and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic
> and has that linear-fm-feature.
>
> naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an
> almost
> complete synth voice (also a module some people have
> asked for),
> but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in
> the first
> place. the module should more be seen as a new vco
> approach
> which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice.
>
> the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla
> 259,
> as it uses completely different techniques (except
> that
> both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely
> different features. i can understand the
> expectations and
> yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a
> different
> pair of shoes.
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Axel Jungkunst
> <phaedra@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the
> doubling of the 109-
> features
> > into a new module.
> > The 259 features or something in this way would
> have been that I
> had
> > expected!
> > All the best
> > Axel
> >
> > Jay schrieb:
> > >
> > > Bakis Sirros wrote:
> > > > hello jay,
> > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok.
> > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though.
> > > > best regards,
> > > > Bakis.
> > >
> > > I understand that the new oscillator has
> different features and
> how they
> > > can be used. I'm just saying that the
> pan/filter/vca part seems
> quite
> > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space
> could better be
> used for
> > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla
> 259.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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