For me... A "dynamic" VCO would have the following:
1. Ability to reach sub-audio
2. horizontal and vertical waveshaping w/ cv control and attenuation
3. linear / exponential fm w/ attenuation
4. harmonic automation
5. focused on additive rather than subtractive synthesis
6. the ability to create new and interesting waveforms

but hey, who am I

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:00 PM, ilanode < techmeier@... > wrote:

> Yes, it's relativly costly to bring those features out. On the other
> hand you get a highly normalized VCO which enables you to try various
> dynamic waveshaping on the fly which can be very inspiring and thus
> might pay off. Rgds, Ingo
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "laryn91" <caymus91@...> wrote:
> >
> > Several people have posted that because the CEM has a filter and
> VCAs ,we're somehow
> > getting the features for free (or even low cost). Look at all the
> additional pots, knobs,
> > jacks, connections and circuit boards required to implement these
> additional functions!
> >
> > Ask any DIYer, usually the overwhelming cost and time is in those
> passive components -
> > not the semiconductors.
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "selfoscillate"
> <synaptic_music@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Chris Muir <cbm@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 5, 2008, at 1:51 AM, selfoscillate wrote:
> > > > > i don't see a problem here. you can just add a vca of your
> > > > > choice to the patch to get dynamic fm.
> > > > > imho separate vca's give the best flexibility, as you can use
> > > > > them for other purposes too, if you don't use dynamic fm
> > > > > in your actual patch.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's certainly true that you can patch a VCA into FM in. I
> mentioned
> > > > that in my original message.
> > > >
> > > > A complex vco like the A-111-2 is all about integration. By your
> > > > logic, why have an integrated filter or waveshaper Wouldn't a
> > > > separate filter [waveshaper] be more flexible
> > > >
> > > > All I was saying was that for a large class of FM sounds, dynamic
> > > > depth is important, and that, at least for me, having this VCA
> > > > integrated into the oscillator would be a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > Chris Muir
> > > > cbm@
> > > > http://www.xfade.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > hello chris,
> > >
> > > i totally agree with you that dynamic depth fm is great,
> > > but including such a function would be nothing else than
> > > adding a vca, which is already available in many incarnations.
> > >
> > > so why including a filter and a waveshaper on the a111/2
> > > because they are already on the cem chip, so it would be
> > > a waste not to use them.
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > >
> > > ingo
> > >
> >
>
>
>


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