> hello list!
 >
 > thanks for this information! i am looking forward a matrix mixer to
 > integrate it in my modular live setup :)
 >
 > imo a 4x4 matrix is for most applications sufficient (eg mixing the
 > outs of the quad modules or 2 dual modules...).
 >
 > hence, it would be more convenient to use a slightly modified front
 > panel layout:
 > i suggest a "matrix design" of the ins and outs, ie using the inputs
 > on the left and the outputs on the bottom (fifth row). alternatively,
 > the ins can be placed on the bottom (or top) row and the outs on the
 > right, depending on whether the switches for polarity (next to the
 > outs) fit in a vertical or horizontal line...
 > it would be cheaper (16 instead of 25 pots) and in particular much
 > more clear in a live context and more compact (i think 20te will do it)...
 >
 > any further suggestions !
 >
 > kind regards,
 > andreas
Please look at the revised page of the A-138m. We have a 4x4 version
 suggested too and will probably manufacture this version.
 Best wishes
 Dieter Doepfer