Rachel,

Your sort of correct about the A120. It's not a Moog clone but is based
on a similar transistor ladder design.

I agree whole heartedly, the plus for the A100 is it sounds the way it
does. You can get close approximations of other synths, i.e. use the
Wasp type filter to get Wasp type sounds, but as the other components in
the signal and modulation chain are different it will never be a perfect
copy, which is wonderful.

regards

David
-----Original Message-----
From: grove@... [mailto: grove@... ]
Sent: 11 June 2004 16:12
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 1 Re: 110 vs 111 (was Re: tuning)

> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 18:07:04 -0000
> From: "mritenburg" < mritenburg@... >
> Subject: 110 vs 111 (was Re: tuning
>
> Hi Gino,
>
> I believe the A110 is perceived as "richer" sounding as the

waveforms

> are not as pure as the A111. The sine is a shaped triangle,

the

> square wave is a little droopy, etc. This, of course, results

is

> more harmonics. Also, the A110 is a true discrete design

whereas the

> A111 uses the CEM chip. IMHO, this discrete design has the

A110

> sounding something like an Emu modular oscillator, whereas,

the A111

> sounds very similar to my oberheim matrix 6 oscillators. I

think the

> biggest let down for some people when it comes to Doepfer

modules is

> the lack of "moogieness." Some people go looking for that

"moog"

> sound in Doepfer and are let down. I was looking for

something

> different and have been pleasantly surprised along the way.

I think this is right. The Doepfer VCO 110 sounds to me much
more like
a Roland System 100M, than a Moog. It definitely doesn't have a
Moog sound. I have a MiniMoog and the Doepfer sounds quite
different.
Even the filter A120, which is the "standard" filter doesn't
sound Moogish.
It once again sounds like a System 100M filter. I think the
A120 is
based on the Moog design though, isn't it

I like my Doepfer because it doesn't sound like anything else in
my collection.


Rachel Polanskis Systems Admin, University of Western
Sydney
V1-37, Kingswood Campus (+61 2) 47 360 291
< r.polanskis@... >
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