Unless I'm mistaken, the Metalbox wavefolder is Ken Stone's
Wave Multiplier board with a fracplate. It this is the case, it's real
real close to the Serge multiplier and this was not intentional on
Ken's part - he didn't just copy Serge's. The Serge Wave
Multiplier is more in your face, that's for sure - but IMHO it's not
so good at sublety, and this is where the A137 kicks butt. For my
$$$, it doesn't always need to yell.

What's with the Metalbox sequential switch price sheesh -
$400 You know what's in those things Not much!

- P




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , RSA <wiard300@y...>
wrote:

>
> I had the A137, sold it. Bought the Metalbox one,
> still have it. I'd say the Metalbox has a MUCH
> stronger effect on the waveform, to my ears.
>
> cheers,
> RSA
>
> --- Bryan E Cornell <bcor@l...> wrote:
>
> > I've been debating between the A-137 and a Metalbox
> > Wave Folder. Can anybody weigh in with some wildly
> > biased opinions
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > >>> Florian.Anwander@c... 10/24/05 3:57 AM >>>
> > Hi
> >
> > > Dieter Dopefer has pulled a off a big winner with
> > the A-137 Wave
> > > Multiplier. One of the most unique sound
> > modifiers to come
> > > around in some time, and argueably the best
> > waveshaper ever
> > > released IMHO.
> > I definitely can subscribe this. The A137 is my
> > favourite module from
> > the first moment.
> >
> >
> > > Tune to Saw VCO's to octaves, mix them, put them
> > both thorugh
> > > one wave multiplier.
> > Don't mix the input signal. Use one VCO as carrier
> > and the other as
> > Modulator (I call it 'waveshaping cross
> > modulation')!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Trouble in paradise: One thing I wish for is a VC
> > level control
> > > input. Many timbral variations occur based on how
> > hard to drive
> > > the clippers. You can do it with an external VCA
> > of course
> > > leading into the device, but it would have been
> > wack had it been
> > > an A-137 feature.
> > This is not a trouble it is the best feature and one
> > really important
> > note for every use of a wavemultiplier or distortion
> > is:
> > If you want to modulate the effect dynamically
> > (Envelope, LFO, ...), the
> > it is much better to modulate the level of the input
> > signal instead of
> > modulating the waveshaping effect.
> >
> >
> > Example:
> > Not good:
> > ENV
> > |
> > VCO -> A137 -> VCA
> >
> > Better:
> > ENV
> > |
> > VCO -> VCA -> A137
> >
> >
> > The best (and most simple) example is feeding a
> > TR808 style drumset with
> > bass drum and different toms through the A-137. Use
> > only very short
> > Hihats and no noise like clap or shaker.
> >
> >
> > Florian
> >
> >
> >
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