I got to play around with MQ and my Matrix-1000 today. I got lost in the punchy sound this synth has and jammed with it most of the day.

I can't get patch names from MQ even if I use MQ to send patches with names to it. However the same is true using SoundDiver, JSynthLib, or MatrixEd for editors.

> and they're all named "BNK0:00" through "BNK0:99."

Opening the editor in MQ sends the patch to the synth but does not change the number displayed.

I found the sysex implementation chart for the Matrix-6 and the first 7 bytes after the header should be the patch names. The data is in 6 bit ASCII form so I can't tell what it should be if there was a name there. Can anyone tell me how to read this from the sysex file. I did try denibblizing it to 134 bytes and still can't figure it out. Since I don't have a Matrix-6 I would like to see an actual dump from a bank that has patch names.

I'm now convinced your Matrix-1000 works just like mine... Fran

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, raradna@... wrote:
>
> Ok. Well I'll describe what is happening the best that I can:
>
> When I try to "get" Patch Bank 0 from the Matrix1000 in my MQ studio window, the program works normally. That gray window with the midi ports listed and progress bar at the bottom pops up, and it works for a little while, until it completes and gets the bank ("bytes received" for a Matrix1000 bank are about 27-28000).
>
> Then the bank window appears, and there are 100 patches displayed, listed from 0 to 99,
> and they're all named "BNK0:00" through "BNK0:99."
>
> When I press a patch in MQ, the synth plays an audition note, but it is always the same patch, no matter which preset i select in MQ. The preset number on the front panel does not change either. If I change the preset manually (from the front panel), then all of the sounds in MQ become the preset that I changed to. If I press the button to show the patch's settings (edit window) in MQ, I can plainly see that they are all unique, so we know that MQ is receiving unique patch data.
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> Could the problem be then, that MQ is somehow failing to properly send program change messages I hope I have explained this well. Let me know your thoughts.
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>
> --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> >
> > You also have to make sure the overflow and grouping settings are turned off or the Matrix cannot send sysex properly. I'm not sure about the G1 thru G9 midi settings for midi guitar use. It's probably easiest to set the Matrix to midi channel 1 for starters.
> >
> > Two more questions... When you select user patches 0-200 from the front panel do you hear different patches I know this is a "duh" question but a dead battery can wipe these out. It seems like MQ would get jibberish for patches though. Can MQ play audition notes from the program
> >
> > I'll try to get mine powered up and check out using Midiquest to load and save patches this weekend. It's been a while since I played with an Oberheim in my studio. I've been playing with virtual analogs like the microKORG XL, Darkstar, and Micron. I should compare them.....
> >
> > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com, Raphael Radna <raradna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I know that Midi Echo has to be off on the Matrix for communication to
> > > work correctly, that was in the MQ "fast tips", but I have that off. Aside
> > > from that, I don't know of anything that needs to be set on the Matrix
> > > itself. If you can recall what it might be besides that (if anything),
> > > please let me know.
> > > I thought maybe it was a sys-ex speed problem (you know how some of these
> > > old machines sometimes get confused by recent midi programs, etc.). But I
> > > tried playing with those settings in the MQ prefs (the ms-delay stuff), with
> > > no luck.
> > > Thank you all for your help, For those of you out there using MQ with a
> > > Matrix-1000, have you ever had a similar experience
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:36 PM, F Aitken <mfaitkenjr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think it's a setting in the matrix 1000. Look in the manual. Something
> > > > like this happened to me once and it turned out to be something in the m1000
> > > > that was set up differently.
> > > >
> > > > F
> > > >
> > > > --- On *Thu, 1/13/11, LarryS <vision1@>* wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: LarryS <vision1@>
> > > > Subject: RE: [oberheim] Re: Matrix 1000 and SQ Midiquest 10 XL HELP
> > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 4:13 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That sounds mysteriously like a program setting far more than a synth
> > > > setting.
> > > >
> > > > some sort of 'send bank on select' vs. 'send patch on select' setup.
> > > >
> > > > L.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: oberheim@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose to=oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > [mailto:oberheim@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose to=oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > On Behalf Of raradna@ <http://mc/compose to=raradna%40gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:43 PM
> > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose to=oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: Matrix 1000 and SQ Midiquest 10 XL HELP
> > > > >
> > > > > So, are you saying that it is normal for the patch that is
> > > > > selected from the front panel at the time of import to
> > > > > populate all 99 presets of the MQ bank B/c that is what is
> > > > > happening for me. I just got the synth, so I was sorta hoping
> > > > > to load ram&rom to midiquest for quick auditioning/naming of
> > > > > everything. Were you able to change patches from within MQ I
> > > > > feel like something is wrong here.
> > > > >
> > > > > The library would be very helpful/appreciated, if you don't
> > > > > mind. I'm using MQ 10 XL on OSX, btw.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose to=oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Rad,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have to name the patches in Midiquest. The Matrix-1000
> > > > > does not have patch names. Midiquest will remember them once
> > > > > you name them. I do not believe that Midiquest can change
> > > > > patch numbers in the Matrix-1000. The patch you select will
> > > > > be loaded to teh edit buffer. The best way is build an entire
> > > > > bank and send it to the synth. Then the patches will be where
> > > > > you want them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know if you're still having issues. I can fire mine
> > > > > up and connect it to my midiquest PC and check things out for
> > > > > you. I also can send you a good sized MQ library already
> > > > > populated with named patches.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fran
> > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose to=oberheim%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > raradna@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey everybody, I am new here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just got an Oberheim Matrix 1000 to add some analog
> > > > > flair to my otherwise Yamaha-FM flavored arsenal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have Midiquest, and have been trying to use it with
> > > > > this synth, but I am having trouble communicating correctly
> > > > > with it. I have turned Midi Echo off, but still when I try to
> > > > > load the patches/banks to my computer, it acts as if it is
> > > > > working, but when it is done, all of the patches that came to
> > > > > the computer are a "default" patch, without names.
> > > > > > > Selecting them does not change the patch number on the
> > > > > front of the unit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does this sound familiar to anyone Is there some special
> > > > > trick to make this work Please, any advice might help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot
> > > > > > > Rad
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